#include<bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;

string key, s;

int main()
{
	getline(cin, key);
	getline(cin, s);
	// 统一大小写
	for (int i = 0; i < key.size(); i++)
		if (key[i] >= 'A' && key[i] <= 'Z') key[i] += 32;
	
	for (int i = 0; i < s.size(); i++)
		if (s[i] >= 'A' && s[i] <= 'Z') s[i] += 32;
	
	key = ' ' + key + ' '; // 预处理在第一个和最后一个单词左右添加空格
	s = ' ' + s + ' ';
	
	int cnt = 0, first_pos = -1, pos = 0;
	while (s.find(key, pos) != s.npos)
	{
		pos = s.find(key, pos);
		if (first_pos == -1) first_pos = pos;
		pos ++;
		cnt ++;
	}
	if (first_pos == -1) cout << -1;
	else cout << cnt << " " << first_pos;

	return 0;
}